{"id":1226,"date":"2012-11-06T11:30:16","date_gmt":"2012-11-06T18:30:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/?p=1226"},"modified":"2019-08-06T13:55:36","modified_gmt":"2019-08-06T19:55:36","slug":"unspeakable-episode-7-john-scott-tynes-delta-green-and-puppetland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/2012\/11\/unspeakable-episode-7-john-scott-tynes-delta-green-and-puppetland\/","title":{"rendered":"Unspeakable! Episode 7 \u2014 John Scott Tynes, Delta Green and Puppetland"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to <em>Unspeakable!,<\/em> the podcast of <em>The Unspeakable Oath.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Spoiler alert for &#8220;Die High,&#8221; a scenario appearing in <em>The Unspeakable Oath<\/em> 22!<\/strong> Seriously, for about a minute starting at 00:51:00 we give the whole thing away.<\/p>\n<p><em>Unspeakable!<\/em>\u00a0episode 7 is hosted by Ross Payton of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/slangdesign.com\/rppr\/\">Role Playing Public Radio<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.zombiesoftheworld.com\/\">Zombies of the World<\/a>,<\/em>\u00a0Shane Ivey of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.arcdream.com\/\">Arc Dream Publishing<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/\">The Unspeakable Oath<\/a>,<\/em>\u00a0and Adam Scott Glancy of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tccorp.com\/\">Pagan Publishing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Our guest today is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.johntynes.com\">John Scott Tynes<\/a>, who produces games and helps run the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imaginecup.com\">Imagine Cup competition<\/a> for Microsoft \u2014 and who founded <em>The Unspeakable Oath<\/em>\u00a0and Pagan Publishing\u00a0and created <em>Delta Green<\/em>. His book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arcdream.com\/zencart\/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;cPath=1&amp;products_id=46\"><em>Delta Green: Strange Authorities<\/em><\/a> is now available from Arc Dream Publishing and he is developing his seminal RPG <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Puppetland-Power-Kill-John-Tynes\/dp\/1899749209\/revland\"><em>Puppetland<\/em><\/a> for a new edition.<\/p>\n<p>Subscribe to the Unspeakable! podcast feed at\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/?feed=podcast\">http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/?feed=podcast<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-unspeakable-oath\/id441232694\">Or subscribe at iTunes.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And please remember to rate us!<\/p>\n<h2>Show Notes<\/h2>\n<p><strong>00:00:00 INTRO.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:23 WELCOME.<\/strong> Here is the sound of our voices. About John H. Crowe III&#8217;s living conditions as Scott&#8217;s roommate at Pagan House. Ross&#8217; announcer voice: time to commit? Jonathan Turner needs to step it up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:30 SPONSORS (AND ANECDOTES ABOUT THEM).<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Atlas Games with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.atlas-games.com\/product_tables\/AG1260.php\"><em>Cthulhu 500<\/em><\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/blackchickenstudios\/ars-magica-video-game\"><em>Ars Magica<\/em> videogame<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hplfilmfestival.com\">The H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival<\/a> in Los Angeles (in October) and Portland, Oregon (in March, if there is one).<\/li>\n<li>Innsouth Free Press with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.innsmouthfreepress.com\/blog\/?p=19411\"><em>Fungi<\/em><\/a>, a fungus-themed collection of Lovecraftian horror.<\/li>\n<li>Miskatonic River Press with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.miskatonicriverpress.com\/products\/asic.shtml\"><em>A Season in Carcosa<\/em><\/a>, edited by Joseph S. Pulver, Sr., now in ebook (thanks, Ross!) as well as print.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>00:13:30 THE DOOM THAT CAME WITH SANDY.<\/strong> Good luck, eastern seaboard! We mourn a storied sailing ship. The Elder Sign works on shoggoths.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/cd2012.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1230\" title=\"cd2012\" src=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/cd2012-300x273.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"273\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/cd2012-300x273.png 300w, http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/cd2012.png 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>00:16:45 VOTE!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:40 PLEASE RATE THE PODCAST AND THE MAGAZINE.<\/strong> It matters a lot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:10 YOU SHOULD HAVE <em>OATH<\/em> 21.<\/strong> If you don&#8217;t, contact <a href=\"mailto:shane@arcdream.com\">shane@arcdream.com<\/a>. We love the cover art and if Todd doesn&#8217;t then he&#8217;s wrong. Also: &#8220;Sukakpak,&#8221; a cross-platform scenario by Jason Morningstar. Ross has played <em>Cthulhu Dark<\/em> and <a href=\"http:\/\/actualplay.roleplayingpublicradio.com\/?s=cthulhu+dark\">the players made it not dark enough<\/a>. Player vs. player vs. an uncaring, haunted universe. Also, <em>Unaussprechlichen Klutzen<\/em>, a playset for\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullypulpitgames.com\/games\/fiasco\/\">Fiasco<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em>&#8220;Man With a Thousand Faces,&#8221; by Richard Becker, which like his past scenario &#8220;Dog Will Hunt&#8221; got expanded and polished mightily after a ton of playtesting and has gotten huge accolades. A new &#8220;Directive From A-Cell&#8221; by Scott Glancy, with a related one coming in <em>Oath<\/em> 22: Alphonse&#8217;s Axioms for Agents.<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:45:05 ALSO IN <em>OATH<\/em> 22.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;Die High,&#8221; a modern scenario by Greg Stolze. The value of playtesting except when (or <em>especially<\/em> when?) Blair Reynolds is involved. <strong><em>Spoilers<\/em> for &#8220;Die High&#8221; from 00:51:00 to 00:52:10.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Adam Gauntlett&#8217;s <em>Trail of Cthulhu<\/em> scenario &#8220;Remember, Remember,&#8221; featuring Guy Fawkes Night in 1930s London, which ties nicely to <em>Bookhounds of London<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>Dan Harms explores building a long-term <em>Call of Cthulhu<\/em> campaign.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tinyurl.com\/cme-kindle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" title=\"Cthulhu Mythos Encyclopedia ebook cover\" src=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cthulhu-Mythos-Encyclopedia-ebook-cover-v1-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/strong><strong>00:56:60 NEWS.<\/strong><\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Oath<\/em> submission policies updated.\u00a0Why <a href=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/?page_id=455\">we pay so much<\/a> for micro fiction.<\/li>\n<li>The <em>Cthulhu Mythos Encyclopedia<\/em>,\u00a0now in ebook.<\/li>\n<li>The status of <em>The Sense of the Sleight-of-Hand Man,<\/em>\u00a0a Dreamlands campaign for\u00a0<em>Call of Cthulhu<\/em>\u00a0by Dennis Detwiller.<\/li>\n<li>Disposable characters from Rasil Bathbone to Backwash Bejesus and beyond.<\/li>\n<li>The Delta Green RPG.\u00a0See Dennis&#8217; paintings for the game at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.delta-green.com\">delta-green.com<\/a>. See Shane&#8217;s discussion of the game in an <a href=\"http:\/\/arcdream.com\/home\/?p=1375\">RPG.net live chat<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><em>Bumps In the Night.<\/em>\u00a0If you are Lawrence Krumsiek, get in touch! Your contact information from Kickstarter was all wrong and Pagan Publishing has a book for you. Now available at <a href=\"http:\/\/arkhambazaar.com\/games\/bumps-in-the-night-coc-scenarios\">Arkham Bazaar<\/a>. Scott is Skyping games all over the world.<\/li>\n<li>Ross&#8217; latest Kickstarter project, <em>Base Raiders<\/em>.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/rosspayton\/base-raiders-the-superpowered-dungeon-crawling-rpg\">It made it!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><em>Cthulhu World Combat,<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/1816687860\/cthulhu-world-combat\">Sandy Petersen&#8217;s new video game.<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt1712578\/\"><em>The Devil&#8217;s Rock<\/em><\/a>,\u00a0suspiciously similar to Dennis Detwiller&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rpgnow.com\/product\/99298\/Delta-Green%3A-Dark-Theatres?manufacturers_id=4217&amp;affiliate_id=48458\">&#8220;Night and Water.&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0Only with Satan instead of the Mythos.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>01:30:45 QUESTIONS FROM LISTENERS.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Will there be a reprint of <em>Realm of Shadows?\u00a0<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Everybody loves John Scott Tynes&#8217; &#8220;Convergence.&#8221; Listen to the original digital audio files John prepared as clues in his game. In fact, download here: The Message, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.delta-green.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Convergence-message-before.wav\">before decoding<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.delta-green.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Convergence-message-after.wav\">after decoding<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 but for maximum impact make the players use software to decode it themselves.\u00a0<strong>(Spoiler alert from 01:37:30 to 01:38:20!)<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>John&#8217;s dream RPG project, his lost college Yellow Sign campaign.<\/li>\n<li>Miscegenation and Lovecraftian horror.<\/li>\n<li>The staying power of Delta Green: verisimilitude, campaign frameworks, tragic heroism, honor and violence, and the worldwide allure of the American Old West.<\/li>\n<li>Rehabilitating Lovecraft&#8217;s Dreamlands. (Spoiler alert from 01:51:10 to 01:53:30 for <em>The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath.)\u00a0<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Also, &#8220;The Hound&#8221; and the competitive indie RPG it ought to be.<\/li>\n<li>Recovering horror in your game.<\/li>\n<li>The design of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0786926392\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0786926392&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theunspoath-20\">D20 edition of <em>Call of Cthulhu<\/em><\/a> that Pagan Publishing produced with Monte Cook for Wizards of the Coast: Burn it all and let every Keeper start over.<\/li>\n<li>The mysterious Cowan in in Tynes Cowan Corp.<\/li>\n<li>John&#8217;s favorite parts of Delta Green that he didn&#8217;t write. How Wackenhut made Shane miss the infamous London encounter at the beginning of <em>Countdown<\/em>. We love Graeme Price so hard.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Puppetland.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-1231\" title=\"Puppetland\" src=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Puppetland.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Puppetland.jpg 300w, http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Puppetland-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>02:22:38 INTERVIEW.<\/strong><\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li>All about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arcdream.com\/zencart\/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;cPath=1&amp;products_id=46\"><em>Delta Green: Strange Authorities<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0The relationship between Delta Green and its great rival. Tangled timelines. Legal procedurals.<\/li>\n<li>Serendipitous research and collaboration.<\/li>\n<li>Adoration of Delta Green&#8217;s Project Rainbow.<\/li>\n<li>The challenges of writing for the Cthulhu Mythos. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dorktower.com\/2012\/08\/21\/cthulhu-bacon-dork-tower-21-08-12\/\">The new bacon.<\/a>\u00a0Starting with story.<\/li>\n<li>The return of <em>Puppetland.<\/em> Its <a href=\"http:\/\/johntynes.com\/revland2000\/rl_puppetland_www.html\">origins online<\/a> and its <a href=\"http:\/\/johntynes.com\/revland2000\/rl_puppetland.html\">Hogshead version<\/a>. Teaching kids with Punch the Maker-Killer. Developing a new edition for ebook and hardcover.<\/li>\n<li>Collecting John&#8217;s King in Yellow stories.<\/li>\n<li>Further projects.<\/li>\n<li>Let&#8217;s bring\u00a0<em>Puppetland<\/em> to a Dreamworks film, Happy Meals and action figures near you.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>03:01:42 NYARLATHOTEP!\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>03:03:05 MANY THINGS TO DO.<\/strong> (Spoiler alert! The sounds of &#8220;Convergence,&#8221; decoded.)<\/p>\n<p>This episode\u2019s music includes \u201cSome Things Man Was Not Meant to Know\u201d and \u201cNyarlathotep\u201d by the Darkest of the Hillside Thickets, courtesy Divine Industries. Copyright 2012. Visit\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thickets.net\/\">www.thickets.net<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ADDENDUM:<\/strong> We forgot to include a link.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0985218401\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0985218401&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theunspoath-20\"><em>Night Parade of One Hundred Demons<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-719\" title=\"unspeakable-600x600\" src=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/unspeakable-600x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/unspeakable-600x600.jpg 600w, http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/unspeakable-600x600-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/unspeakable-600x600-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7756\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1226-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3\">http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/?powerpress_pinw=1226-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theunspeakableoath.com\/podcast\/unspeakable-episode07.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"unspeakable-episode07.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-unspeakable-oath\/id441232694?mt=2&amp;ls=1\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/theunspeakableoath.com\/home\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><!--powerpress_player-->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to Unspeakable!, the podcast of The Unspeakable Oath. 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